Legislature(2011 - 2012)CAPITOL 120

03/21/2011 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY


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= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 168 INJUNCTION SECURITY: INDUSTRIAL OPERATION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 6 REMOVING A REGENT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                    HB 6 - REMOVING A REGENT                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:12:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTO announced  that the final order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO.  6, "An Act authorizing the governor  to remove or                                                               
suspend a  member of the  Board of  Regents of the  University of                                                               
Alaska  for good  cause;  and establishing  a  procedure for  the                                                               
removal or  suspension of a  regent."  [Before the  committee was                                                               
CSHB 6(EDC).]                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:13:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER  moved  to adopt  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute (CS) for HB 6,  Version 27-LS0027\T, Mischel, 2/25/11,                                                               
as the working document.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:13:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TED  MADSEN, Staff,  Representative Max  Gruenberg, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  explained  on  behalf  of  the  sponsor  of  HB  6,                                                               
Representative  Gruenberg, that  back in  2007, a  member of  the                                                               
Board  of Regents  of the  University of  Alaska was  indicted on                                                               
many  counts  of fraud  and  embezzlement  of federal  funds  but                                                               
refused to resign  his position as regent, and so  in addition to                                                               
the  Senate's beginning  formal impeachment  proceedings, a  bill                                                               
was introduced in  the House that would have  created a procedure                                                               
by which to remove a regent.   At that time, the Board of Regents                                                               
didn't have  such a procedure  in place,  and so was  invited [by                                                               
the  House  Judiciary  Standing   Committee]  to  adopt  policies                                                               
through which  the Board of Regents  could remove one of  its own                                                               
members,  but  it  didn't do  so  then  and  has  yet to  do  so.                                                               
Specifically, HB  6 would allow  the governor to remove  a regent                                                               
for  good cause,  and provides  for the  establishment of  both a                                                               
removal  procedure   and  a   suspension  procedure,   with  both                                                               
procedures complying  with Alaska's Administrative  Procedure Act                                                               
(APA).  He  offered his belief that Section 1,  which pertains to                                                               
legislative findings  and purposes,  offers reassurance  that the                                                               
bill is  intended to allow for  the removal of a  regent only for                                                               
good  cause,  while also  ensuring  that  the university  remains                                                               
insulated from politics.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. MADSEN  explained that Section  2's proposed  AS 14.40.155(a)                                                               
enumerates instances in  which a regent may be  suspended.  Under                                                               
Version  T,  though, proposed  AS  14.40.155(a)(3)  now says,  "a                                                               
probable cause determination of  a knowing ethics violation under                                                               
AS 39.52 that  results in a complaint under  consideration by the                                                               
personnel board";  and proposed  AS 14.40.155(a)(4) now  says, "a                                                               
verified  complaint  of  malfeasance  or  nonfeasance  in  office                                                               
described  under (g)(4)  of this  section under  consideration by                                                               
the governor".   These two changes in language  address a concern                                                               
that mere allegations  could [result in suspension].   Also under                                                               
Version T, proposed AS 14.40.155(a)  now contains a paragraph (5)                                                               
that says,  "proceedings involving misconduct that  is related to                                                               
the regent's ability to serve  as a regent under consideration by                                                               
a professional or occupational licensing body".                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:19:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MADSEN  explained that Section  2's proposed  AS 14.40.155(b)                                                               
provides [a  regent facing  an accusation  by a  governor seeking                                                               
the regent's removal]  an opportunity for a  hearing and judicial                                                               
review;  that  Section  2's proposed  AS  14.40.155(c)  allows  a                                                               
suspended  regent to  request  a hearing  to  defend against  the                                                               
stated  grounds for  the suspension,  or  a hearing  to have  the                                                               
suspension  lifted; that  Section  2's  proposed AS  14.40.155(d)                                                               
allows  the governor  to delegate  the  office of  administrative                                                               
hearings to conduct  such hearings - such  delegation is commonly                                                               
done for  hearings pertaining to  many of the state's  boards and                                                               
commissions;  that Section  2's proposed  AS 14.40.155(e)  states                                                               
that the  APA - AS 44.62.330  through AS 44.62.630 -  shall apply                                                               
to all proceedings under proposed  AS 14.40.155; that Section 2's                                                               
proposed AS  14.40.155(f) stipulates  that among other  things, a                                                               
complete record  of the  removal proceeding  shall be  filed with                                                               
the lieutenant  governor's office; and that  Section 2's proposed                                                               
AS 14.40.155(g)  defines the  term, "good cause"  as it  would be                                                               
used  in  proposed AS  14.40.155  to  justify  the removal  of  a                                                               
regent.   Under  Version T,  though, proposed  AS 14.40.155(g)(5)                                                               
now  says  good cause  also  means,  "misconduct related  to  the                                                               
regent's  ability to  serve  as  a regent  and  resulting in  the                                                               
revocation  or  suspension  of  a  professional  or  occupational                                                               
license issued under state law".                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MADSEN,  in  conclusion,  explained that  Section  3  -  the                                                               
applicability section -  stipulates that the bill  would apply to                                                               
all conduct  and acts occurring  before, on, or after  the bill's                                                               
effective date.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG, in response  to a question and speaking                                                               
as the sponsor,  explained that currently, the only  way a regent                                                               
could be  removed would  be via  a formal  impeachment proceeding                                                               
conducted  by the  legislature.   Such  a  limitation is  neither                                                               
practical nor  responsible, given that the  legislature meets for                                                               
only part of the year, he opined.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLMES  referred  to  the  language  of  proposed                                                               
AS 14.40.155(g)(1)  stipulating that  "good cause"  also means  a                                                               
violation of the Alaska Executive Branch  Ethics Act - AS 39.52 -                                                               
and  questioned whether  that includes  even minor  violations of                                                               
that Act.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  said that as  the sponsor of  the bill,                                                               
it's  his  intention that  it  would  have  to  be a  very  major                                                               
violation.   Because the  Board of Regents  of the  University of                                                               
Alaska has been  established by the Alaska  State Constitution, a                                                               
regent should not be removed except  for a reason so serious that                                                               
the person either cannot or should  not continue to function as a                                                               
regent.   He  mentioned that  he  would be  amenable to  altering                                                               
proposed  AS  14.40.155(g)(1)  in  order to  ensure  that  that's                                                               
really  the case  -  perhaps by  stipulating that  it  must be  a                                                               
serious violation, or  a very serious violation.   In response to                                                               
a comment regarding proposed  AS 14.40.155(g)(3) stipulating that                                                               
"good cause" also  means a conviction of  a misdemeanor involving                                                               
dishonesty,  breach of  trust, or  the University  of Alaska,  he                                                               
characterized such misdemeanors as very  serious [for a regent to                                                               
have committed].                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:24:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN referred to  proposed AS 14.40.155(g)(1), and                                                               
suggested that perhaps  it could instead be  amended to stipulate                                                               
only violations  of the  Alaska Executive  Branch Ethics  Act for                                                               
which a substantial penalty is assessed.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  indicated that he would  be amenable to                                                               
such a change  as an alternative to his suggestion.   In response                                                               
to comments  and a  question, he  offered his  understanding that                                                               
members' packets  include a memorandum from  the drafter defining                                                               
a  number of  the terms  used  in proposed  AS 14.40.155(g),  and                                                               
relayed that he would be amenable to holding HB 6 over.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLMES  said  she  wants  to  ensure  that  HB  6                                                               
complies  with the  sponsor's intent,  that being  that a  regent                                                               
would only be removed for a very serious reason.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN referred  to proposed  AS 14.40.155(g)(4)(B)                                                               
stipulating  that   "good  cause"   also  means   malfeasance  or                                                               
nonfeasance  in  office, including  an  inability  to serve,  and                                                               
opined  that the  length of  that  inability to  serve should  be                                                               
specified.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG mentioned  that  he  would continue  to                                                               
work on the bill in order to address members' concerns.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GATTO relayed  that  HB 6  would be  held  over [with  the                                                               
motion to adopt Version T as the working document left pending].                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB168 Sponsor Statement 03-09-11.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 168
HB168 Sectional Analysis 02-28-11.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 168
HB168 Version B 02-23-11.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 168
HB168 Supporting Documents-Backup Material 03-09-11.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 168
HB6 Sponsor Statement 02-23-11.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB6 Sectional Analysis Version E 02-23-11.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB6 CS EDU Version E 02-23-11.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB6 Version A 01-18-11.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB6 Fiscal Note-DOA-OAH 02-07-11.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB6 Fiscal Note-UA-Sysbra 02-09-11.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB6 Supporting Documents-Memo Legal Services 01-28-11.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB6 Supporting Documents-Memo Legal Services 04-17-07.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
SJUD 3/5/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 6
HB6 Supporting Documents-Model Statutes 03-13-07.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB6 Supporting Documents-Opinion (Informal) AG 02-02-07.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
SJUD 3/5/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 6
HB6 Memo from Legal Services 03-17-11.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB6 Explanation of Changes A to D 02-23-11.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB6 Opposing Documents-Testimony T. Neil Davis 02-28-11.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB6 Version T WORK DRAFT 02-25-11.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB6 Explanation of Changes E to T 03-21-11.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB6 Sectional Analysis Version T 03-21-11.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB168 Fiscal Note-DFG-HAB 03-21-11.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 168
HB168 Fiscal Note-LAW-CIV 03-21-11.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 168
HB168 Fiscal Note-DNR-MLD 03-18-11.pdf HJUD 3/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 168